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Barbie

?????????

Not my photograph, however, where and what is this?

Alice

Oriel Chambers in Water Street?

Well that's what it says on the information when I right click!  Laughing
Barbie

Alice wrote:
Oriel Chambers in Water Street?

Well that's what it says on the information when I right click!  Laughing

Shocked You cheater Alice!

Razz
Ok yo are right. It never seems to get a mention yet when I look at it, I find it amazing and really attractive.


Again, not my pic, but look at the intricate detail.

Taken from Wikipaedia:
Oriel Chambers is the world's first metal framed glass curtain walled building. Designed by architect Peter Ellis and built in 1864, it comprises 43,000 sq ft (4,000 m2) set over five floors. A Grade 1 Listed Building, it is located on Water Street near to the town hall in Liverpool, England.

Oriel Chambers, and the architect's only other known building at 16 Cook Street, are amongst the city's precursors of modernist architecture. However its simplified forms and large windows meant that the building initially courted controversy, being described as "an agglomeration of great glass bubbles" and even "a great abortion" which led to the disheartened Ellis abandoning architecture.

Today it looks a little different, combining its period architecture with a 1950s extension, which was added to the building after it was bombed during World War II.

In 2006 the building was purchased from DCT Developments by Bruntwood for just over £5 million. Bruntwood was then expected to spend 2007/08 refurbishing the building at a cost of £750,000.[citation needed]

The building's primary tenant is a set of barristers' chambers, which have been in occupation in various parts since 1965.

Oriel Chambers and 16 Cook Street were featured in the first episode of the ITV (Granada / Tyne Tees) television series Grundy's Northern Pride, looking at John Grundy's favourite buildings in the north of England, aired on 9 January 2007.
Alice

Barbie, I couldn't resist it!  Laughing

Yes it is a nice building.
Barbie

Alice wrote:
Barbie, I couldn't resist it!  Laughing

Yes it is a nice building.


I've got your card marked m'lady....

Razz  Laughing
brainbox

Its a lovely building if you look at the back end of it   you can see how plain that bit is  as this is the section that was rebuilt after WW2 damage
Barbie

brainbox wrote:
Its a lovely building if you look at the back end of it   you can see how plain that bit is  as this is the section that was rebuilt after WW2 damage
Yes Beeb, that is correct. It was hit and it was rebuilt.
Tony Riviera

Geat photo Barbie. fantastic building
Barbie

I'm glad it isn't just me who thinks so. Just look at the monstrosity behind it!
brainbox

That is a horrible designed building Barbie, and it looks no better close up either..At risk of boring you ,I can tell you that on one of my City Walks , the
Guide told us  that the design is called ' Dazzle' and it is supposed to be a homage to the Camouflaged fighting ships from WW1 and WW 2....not only that, but the developer had the Architect Deign part of the pattern in Morse code and guess what the morse code part spells out....Nah ! I will tell you .. it spells out the christian name of his mum.  I thought that bit was lovely.

have a look here for Dazle


www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazzle_camouflage
Barbie

Cheers for that Beeb....not boring at all. Thanks.  Cool
MOJO

....what's his mum's name....Morticia?? Smile
MOJO

I took these,the other week,so I thought I'd join in! Laughing Peter Ellis didn't get to do many buildings,due to the negative public responses to his designs(16 Cook st.,off Castle st., is his only other construction)but this was a pioneer,as it was the first steel framed building in the world!





Jan

such a lovely building, thanks for info and photo's just great ..I'll see what I have later ,,,,Jan x
Barbie

Cheers Mojo. Love it. Smile
MOJO

Ta! This is 16 Cook st,Ellis's only other building.



This is where he lived for a time,40 Faulkner square.



...and this is the Reliance building,in Chicago,the architect,John Root,being influenced greatly,by Ellis!  

Barbie

Mojo, cheers, great source of info there.  Very Happy
brainbox

Good bit of research there MOJO..Ta !
Jan

Great pics and info mojo thanks ,,Jan x Very Happy
Barbie

Can anyone enlighten me as to the origin of this building? What is it now? I took this pic about 3 years back, I think it is Dale street.
brainbox

Is it The Municipal Annex ?  or is that further down?  MOJO will know ,if not then a bit of searching required for tomorrow   Razz
Barbie

brainbox wrote:
Is it The Municipal Annex ?  or is that further down?  MOJO will know ,if not then a bit of searching required for tomorrow   Razz
It's a random pic I took, I haven't a clue, but, what a lovely building it is.
MOJO

Barbie wrote:
Can anyone enlighten me as to the origin of this building? What is it now? I took this pic about 3 years back, I think it is Dale street.



It's the Prudential Assurance building,a grade 2 listed building,completed in 1856,by Alfred Waterhouse. Not sure who's using it now,though? Confused
Barbie

Thanks Mojo. Cheers! Smile
Barbie

Can anybody help me on this building please? It is on Green Lane Stoneycroft. The google map pic is form last year, I think the cafe was a catering shop for a  while before that. I'm thinking it was a factory of sorts sometime maybe?


brainbox

Barbie wrote:
Can anybody help me on this building please? It is on Green Lane Stoneycroft. The google map pic is form last year, I think the cafe was a catering shop for a  while before that. I'm thinking it was a factory of sorts sometime maybe?




I remember that building being a Catering Equipment Suppliers Barbi, in fact until you put this pic up today I thought it still was trading as that'

Well in the Mid 1950s the building was constructed for and opened as Weaver's Progressive Bakeries Ltd.

It looks like our old  friends Woolfendons installing the ovens Too   he he !



,, and this may have been when it ceased trading

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/44274/pages/3345/page.pdf
Barbie

ACE!!!!!!!!! Thanks  matey. I did think it looked sort of 'bakery' but didn't know. My son walked past it yesterday and was asking me at tea time tonight if I knew. I said I wasn't sure but that if I asked on the forum some clever clogs would know. And I was right!  Very Happy
Great photo, thanks Beeb. Woolfy's.....should have guessed!  Razz
I'll nick that opic and email it to my son. (He's only upstairs..... Laughing  )
brainbox

you're most welcome. and yeah those Woolfy fella's are Legendary aren't they

Barbie do you e-mail your son to tell him when his tea is ready too
Laughing  Laughing
Barbie

brainbox wrote:
you're most welcome. and yeah those Woolfy fella's are Legendary aren't they

Barbie do you e-mail your son to tell him when his tea is ready too
Laughing  Laughing
Don't be so silly!!!!!

I text him............ Laughing  Razz  Laughing  Razz
(Actually, there isn't any cred on my phone at present, so I ring his mobile from the house phone...... Laughing  Well, he doesn't hear me shouting cos he has his headphones on! )
brainbox

Razz

It looks like the building that made way for this was trading as a place of Entertainment, as in 1946 it was   The New Pavilion Dance Hall
Maybe somewhere around on the Net there is a pic of it....It would make a nice Now & Then if found
Barbie

Challenge.....first one to find a pic of it..... Cool
MOJO

That's an interesting item,B.B. There was some bomb damage in that area,during WW2. The "George" pub,a bit further along,was flattened,so maybe that was the fate of the theatre?
MOJO

The original St.George



....and the present one,though Ithink it's a different colour,now!!

Barbie

Older one looks the best!  Very Happy
brainbox

Still no pic of the building on the corner of Tynwald Hill that existed prior to the late 1950s.. there must be one around.

The  Dance Hall company  wasn't always the occupier as its listed in 1930. as The Stoneycroft Rifle Club.
Barbie

I passed that yesterday too Beeb.
Not good pics, my eyes were watering with the cold and only had my  cam on my phone.




brainbox

Thanks for the 'now' pics barbie, I bet the original building that stood here was much better deigned than this 1950s square block effort.
The Numbering system also changed through the years too indicating that there must be some later additions to this side of the Street.
MOJO

Tynwald hill was a quite well-to-do area,at one time,so possibly, there were large houses there,as opposed to commercial premises?
Barbie

Yeah Beeb, square and boring.  I much prefer some intricate detail.
Mojo, I'll go up Tynwald next time and have a look.
MOJO

There is a pic' on the Old Swan site,which shows just a small part of that area,and there's part of a low sandstone wall,leading away from the shops,but you can't see what's behind it!! (can't save the pic'!)
Alice

brainbox wrote:
Razz

It looks like the building that made way for this was trading as a place of Entertainment, as in 1946 it was   The New Pavilion Dance Hall
Maybe somewhere around on the Net there is a pic of it....It would make a nice Now & Then if found


Not sure where you mean but when I googled I found this interesting site.

http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/Liverpool/PavilionTheatreLiverpool.htm
Barbie

MOJO wrote:
There is a pic' on the Old Swan site,which shows just a small part of that area,and there's part of a low sandstone wall,leading away from the shops,but you can't see what's behind it!! (can't save the pic'!)
Yes you can save it.....use screen shot and save it via psp or paint!  Wink
Barbie

Nice link Alice, well worth a read. Thanks
Alice

brainbox wrote:
Still no pic of the building on the corner of Tynwald Hill that existed prior to the late 1950s.. there must be one around.

The  Dance Hall company  wasn't always the occupier as its listed in 1930. as The Stoneycroft Rifle Club.


Brainbox where did you get that information from?
Barbie

More help required from you city buffs..... Laughing

What can anybody tell me about this building. I saw it on google maps and was just wondering.

Renshaw Street.


I have a horrible feeling that I already know and have just forgotten.  Rolling Eyes
MOJO

Ended it's life as a "Qwikfit" garage,only a couple of years ago! This is where the mysterious underground street,is supposed to be,next door to the "Dispensary" pub! Couldn't say what it was in the past,but it looks like it was a fine looking building,at one time!
Barbie

Yes, now as you mention it, I remember the kwik fit sign. To me, it looks like a theatre, or picture house perhaps?
MOJO

I know the people who run the pub,and I keep meaning to ask them what they might know about it,though they've only been there ,about 8 years!
Barbie

oh, well, ask them, cos I'd love to know.  Cool
Scousemouse

Barbie wrote:
oh, well, ask them, cos I'd love to know.  Cool

Barb i have sent you a pm with the address of a site you can search it will give you the answer,
I have sent it via a pm as if i post it its a long address and it would muck the forum pages and i can't split it up
SM
Barbie

Shocked Ohhhh blimey, it is a big one!
Thanks a lot matey!  Cool
Scousemouse

Barbie wrote:
Shocked Ohhhh blimey, it is a big one!
Thanks a lot matey!  Cool

Tried putting just the home page up that was ok but it didnt show The Liverpool directories
Barbie

For anyone else who wants the link, here it is

LIST
Scousemouse

Barbie wrote:
For anyone else who wants the link, here it is

LIST

Who is  a clever Welsh English Souser then Wink
Barbie

Embarassed

Razz Tis easy!  Wink
Alice

Barbie wrote:
For anyone else who wants the link, here it is

LIST


Great link Barbie, I have put it in the genealogy section as well.
Barbie

Thanks over to Scousemouse Alice, I just posted the link for him. Good idea to put in that thread too.  Cool
Barbie

Can anybody  tell me anything about this please?


Scousemouse

Barbie wrote:
Can anybody  tell me anything about this please?



What do you want to know my Dad and Grandfather worked there.
It was i can't remember how many but a groupe of large furneses,where the rubbish collected was burnt  it was at the bottom of Wellington Road.
I remember visiting it a number of time when we took their lunch i was about
Five i think.
Here is a photo of the inside i remember the noise was earsplitting when the Furness dors where open .
Barbie

Thanks SM. Interesting info there. I've not even heard of it before, good coincidence that your dad and his dad worked there.
So, now I have to try to picture where it was......assuming it is Welly Road, Wavertree? I don't know if there was more than one!
Scousemouse

Barbie wrote:
Thanks SM. Interesting info there. I've not even heard of it before, good coincidence that your dad and his dad worked there.
So, now I have to try to picture where it was......assuming it is Welly Road, Wavertree? I don't know if there was more than one!
no Barb
Wellington road off Mill Street, it was right at the bottom on the left looking towards the Mersey.
There were a number of them this site will give you info
http://manweb.site88.net/lavrockbankstats.htm
Barbie

Ah...I thought there must have been another as there isn't room in Wavertree's Welly Road for it.

I've just found this:

http://manweb.site88.net/lavrockbankstats.htm
Scousemouse

Barbie wrote:
Ah...I thought there must have been another as there isn't room in Wavertree's Welly Road for it.

I've just found this:

http://manweb.site88.net/lavrockbankstats.htm

I have just posted the same link Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
Barbie

hahahahaaaaaaa!
I didn't notice it sorry.....not blond for nothing!  Rolling Eyes
Laughing  Razz
brainbox

Good pics and info Barbie & Scousemouse. I had heard of the Destructors and the reuse of the clinker for building blocks , but never seen many pics of the actual destructor plants before. Ta !
Interestingly ,the Williamson's tunnels at Edge Hill were at one time used by the Town Council for dumping of Houshold refuge until they became full. Its this and other earlier dumping of rubbish into the tunnels that the volunteers at the Tunnel sites are acrively involved in clearing by hand the past 10 -12 years ,and still doing so at this present time
Barbie

I know exactly where on Prescot Road this is, but, what is that building to the right of the photo? Anyone know?


Barbie

Barbie wrote:
I know exactly where on Prescot Road this is, but, what is that building to the right of the photo? Anyone know?


Did anybody even read this???  Laughing  Razz

Anyway, travelling about google maps tonight, I saw this on Brownlow Hill. (see pic below) I am aware of it in my mind's eye but yet have never bothered to get off the bus to go look at it. Anybody got any idea what it is? Was? History?


Scousemouse

Barbie wrote:
Barbie wrote:
I know exactly where on Prescot Road this is, but, what is that building to the right of the photo? Anyone know?


Did anybody even read this???  Laughing  Razz

Anyway, travelling about google maps tonight, I saw this on Brownlow Hill. (see pic below) I am aware of it in my mind's eye but yet have never bothered to get off the bus to go look at it. Anybody got any idea what it is? Was? History?
it moutfort hall and stanly theater students union,have seen many good acts there

Barbie

Thanks Mousey. Any idea on the age of the building?
Scousemouse

Barbie wrote:
Thanks Mousey. Any idea on the age of the building?
i think it was built around 1860s
here is their web site if you ever want to go see some band they are usualy very good
http://www.ents24.com/liverpool-e...ountford-hall-and-stanley-theatre
Scousemouse

and this is their blog site
http://www.songkick.com/venues/17...pool-university-guild-of-students
Barbie

gracias  Wink
brainbox

Barbie wrote:
I know exactly where on Prescot Road this is, but, what is that building to the right of the photo? Anyone know?




Barbie , that will be Stanley Train Station ,now gone,wont it,  not a million miles away from that Spaceship
Barbie

Ah right! Cheers! Space ship....will be looking to see if it there tomorrow....
Barbie

What is this please anyone?
I passed it today but didn't have my camera on me.


Scousemouse

Barbie wrote:
What is this please anyone?
I passed it today but didn't have my camera on me.



its a sewer vent
Barbie

I meant to say I'd taken that off Google maps....

Thanks SM. Why are they (I saw another one in the same road) there and not anywhere else?
Alice

I don't ever remember seeing one but we all must have one somewhere on our property.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drain-waste-vent_system
Scousemouse

Barbie wrote:
I meant to say I'd taken that off Google maps....

Thanks SM. Why are they (I saw another one in the same road) there and not anywhere else?

am not sure reaily there used to be lots i will try and find out
Scousemouse

cant find much about them but beleave it or not quite a few of them a classed as listed buildings q35
heres one in stone bridge lane there are many different designs also
Barbie

Thanks SM.

The things I get interested in....  q35
brainbox

Yep, there are loads of these rusty old cast Iron Sewer vents dotted about the place.
There are mention of them in a couple of previous Threads , I think The first mention is in the thread concerning that Boundary marker on Thomas Lane,that barbie started a while back where she described the Boundary marker post that she had noticed,
I followed on with a pic of the sewer vent that stands at the corner of Thomas Lane & Thomas Drive.
The second thread they are mentioned in is the one I started about Botanic Park, and a pic of a sewer vent  sited within the park is included.
I think the full description of their purpose was given alongside the-Thomas Drive one, I dont know where that thread can now be found   Rolling Eyes
These stacks are a relic from the former System designed to Safely vent to the atmosphere any build up of gases within the Sewerage system.
Modern Household and Commercial building Plumbing & Drainage regulations now stipulate that each and every property have their own independent Stack, as shown in the link put up by Alice, this system ensures Multi-venting and has superseded the  previous system that utilized these stand alone column vents shown in the pics by Barbie & Scousemouse.
The heritage listing is a bow to their former importance to the health of the Town / City

,,Put simply /// They are just   Stink- Pipes   Razz
Barbie

Methane makers?  Razz
Cheers Beeb.

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