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Alice

Dovecot

Went to these shops recently and it really is criminal the way this area has deteriorated.  The arches have been blocked, no doubt because of the troublemakers who frequent the area.

It was so different when my nan lived in the area.

Alice

The Holy Spirit Church Dovecot

Alice

The church is located on the main A57 trunk road approximately 5 miles outside Liverpool at the junction with Dovecot Avenue.

In 1931, the Diocese of Liverpool purchased Dovecot Farm for the purpose of building a Church and Hall to serve the new parish of Dovecot. The hall was the first building to be completed, dedicated on 4th June 1932 and this served as both hall and church until the church itself was completed in 1937.

The hall is used for a variety of groups including Brownies/Guides, Beavers/Cubs/Scouts, Dancing and Karate. The hall is also available to hire for individual functions or for long term use.
Barbie

Gone down the nick a bit hasn't it Alice?
Alice

Barbie wrote:
Gone down the nick a bit hasn't it Alice?


I feel sorry for anyone living in the area!
Barbie

It is depressing just at the spot of the shops. I'd hate it. Yet, just up the road from it is ok.
Alice

Barbie wrote:
It is depressing just at the spot of the shops. I'd hate it. Yet, just up the road from it is ok.


That's what I was thinking, it has always been nice by Alder Hey Hospital and I don't think Old Swan has changed very much.
MOJO

The obvious differences that you see,in some council estates,always made me think that some,were used as "dumping"grounds,for the more anti-social types,by the council,which just led to people losing heart,regarding their own neighbourhoods!
Barbie

Yes Mojo, the council created Ghettos! I think Dovecote has calmed down over past few years though.
MOJO

I don't know how many times I heard people say"it used to be nice,here" when I lived in dumps like Speke,Croxteth,Kirby,etc! I used to think it was somehow their fault,at least to some degree,but I can now understand, that all it takes is a couple of neighbours from hell,to move into an area,and that's it! Nice to see some reputations,deserved or not,have improved recently!
Barbie

The shops with the cinema in the making (to the left of the pic)






The interior.
MOJO

..at least there was a cinema there! In Kirby,and Speke...bugger all!
Barbie

No wonder people suffered with depression after moving to those places.

Dovecot cinema became a bingo hall and now plays host to some sort of kids playing area or something similar.
Alice

Great photos Barbie
MOJO

Well,when you think these people were/are called planners,how could you expect people to be happy with no shops,or  entertainment venues,especially after moving from an inner city area???

(imagine if "crack" would have been around then!! Laughing )
Barbie

Who says it wasn't!  Wink
Yeah, they sure buggered up the community!  Sad
Alice

MOJO wrote:
Well,when you think these people were/are called planners,how could you expect people to be happy with no shops,or  entertainment venues,especially after moving from an inner city area???

(imagine if "crack" would have been around then!! Laughing )


Like most people they had to travel into Liverpool for the cinema, clubs, swimming baths and big shops.  I think probably they liked doing that, it kept their links with our great city!
MOJO

Alice wrote:
MOJO wrote:
Well,when you think these people were/are called planners,how could you expect people to be happy with no shops,or  entertainment venues,especially after moving from an inner city area???

(imagine if "crack" would have been around then!! Laughing )


Like most people they had to travel into Liverpool for the cinema, clubs, swimming baths and big shops.  I think probably they liked doing that, it kept their links with our great city!


Got to disagree,Alice! When living out in the "sticks",going to "town"was a special occasion,in years gone by,though now,it's a daily occurence! There were,various thriving shopping areas,in the older districts,outside of the city centre,such as Walton/County rd,Old Swan, Park rd,Kensington,etc,which all had swimming pools,cinema's,(then)and even clubs,so there wasn't much need to go into the city centre!
MOJO

Barbie wrote:
Who says it wasn't!  Wink
Yeah, they sure buggered up the community!  Sad


I reckon the only "crack" you would have got then.....was off yer ma!!! Laughing
Barbie

Laughing probably!
Alice

MOJO wrote:
Alice wrote:
MOJO wrote:
Well,when you think these people were/are called planners,how could you expect people to be happy with no shops,or  entertainment venues,especially after moving from an inner city area???

(imagine if "crack" would have been around then!! Laughing )


Like most people they had to travel into Liverpool for the cinema, clubs, swimming baths and big shops.  I think probably they liked doing that, it kept their links with our great city!


Got to disagree,Alice! When living out in the "sticks",going to "town"was a special occasion,in years gone by,though now,it's a daily occurence! There were,various thriving shopping areas,in the older districts,outside of the city centre,such as Walton/County rd,Old Swan, Park rd,Kensington,etc,which all had swimming pools,cinema's,(then)and even clubs,so there wasn't much need to go into the city centre!


MOJO, what about those people who travelled to work in Liverpool from the outer regions like Kirkby, Huyton and Halewood.  They went back in at weekends to socialise.  

Even now those people still travel into Liverpool for the big shops, pubs and clubs.

The limited stop buses like the 500 and the 510 were always packed day and night taking people to the outer regions of Merseyside from Liverpool city centre.

I live beyond the Liverpool boundary and if I want to shop at John Lewis I have to go to Liverpool or Manchester!

Of course there are always people who will stay by where they live but there are many who don't.
MOJO

I think I'm distinguishing between certain areas,where I did live,and also the particular period,which is the 60's/70's,when most couldn't afford the luxury of town,very often,though I started going when I was 16! This usually involved walking home to Speke,because of the cost of a taxi,and getting in about 5/6am!
                                 Nowadays,everyone but the cat's mother, goes there,all the time! When I worked in the city centre,in the early 70's,Church st.etc would be empty,till thursday,or even Friday,and Lord st,hardly ever had any large groups of shoppers,and I wondered how shops like B.H.S. stayed in business??

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