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People of Liverpool

These are pics of Liverpool folk,,




Blind Man 1895
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Steble Fountain

1890's






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Croxteth 1900's
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1890
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1930's






1943


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Frozen Mersey 1895





Frozen Mersey 1895
MOJO

Some fantastic period pic's there,Jan! You can only wonder how life turned out for those kid's? (not sure about the guy with the badger,though! Laughing )
Jan

Makes you wonder,mojo ,thought I'd put them on,, a lot of people looking in...They may have some information regading these photo's....Would love to know more about the man with the Badger if anyone knows...Jan x


All pics  unknown scource
MOJO

That 1943 pic' says so much.....one lad with a broken arm,the bigger one,smoking,and the poor bugger on the end,with his shirt tied together!

(as for badger man, I'd look through prison records! Laughing )
brainbox

Thanks for putting together that collection Jan, Each individual image could be looked over for ages as you try and imagine just what those adults & Children's daily lives actually consisted of. There is a book called ' Liverpool Characters and Streets ' which contains a few of these very images and a lot more similar ones from around the Turn of the last Century It appears that at the time there were a small number of photographic enthusiasts who took the heavy equipment out onto the streets to record the poverty that existed just yards away from the Majestic city center offices of some of the Richest companies in the world. I imagine that the children in the turn of the century images could well be Immigrants or Children born here of immigrants from Ireland & Italy etc whose nearby homes were usually infested & insanitary Courts or dilapidated Terraces and cellar properties .
Jan

The man with the badger ,,I was wondering if he had something to do with Croxteth Hall,, perhaps a gamekeeper or something,,,just an idea,, not many people would have a  badger as a pet,,,Jan x
John Rex

There were a number of menagerie shops around the city at these times
all manner of animals were apparently available
exotic species were also available having been sold to them by seamen returning from voyages to foreign shores
in addition i believe there was still a few small Zoos and menageries about
during this era
the gamekeeper theory is also another possibility as jan says


J.R.
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Central station staff 1930's
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William Henry street
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1895
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Poultry Market
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Back of Market

1890's
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Paddy's Market 1895
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Rag Market 1895
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Cumberland street of facebook

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Greenbank

Great photos Jan
MOJO

Ahh,the good ole' days......not! I always wonder how life treated these "urchin's"!? (but maybe that's some of them in their best gear,in Cumberland st.)  Smile Good pic's Jan! Smile
MOJO

From around the same period,I think this guy was a well known character,at the Aintree races?



Pic' courtesy of L.R.O. (I think)
Jan

That's a wonderful photo,,I really feel for him,,he looks as if he's in his own world...so moving that one

Jan x
brainbox

I find these photos fascinating too,they say so much don't they. Jan,  It appears that around the old Fish Market was a popular spot for these Victorian & Edwardian Pioneer Social Photographers, That gang of fellas in Cumberland Street look like they are getting ready for a day out somewhere . That's an  unusual photo from MOJO aswell, I wonder what the full story is behind that one.
MOJO

Jan wrote:
That's a wonderful photo,,I really feel for him,,he looks as if he's in his own world...so moving that one

Jan x


I'm guessing that he's looking at some sort of betting slip/list? As I said,he possibly had something to do with horse racing,and probably had a nickname? I'll have a scout round! Smile
                                                       
Jan







1890  Mann island





Back of Market 1890
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1895

all pics unknown source
brainbox

Fantastic these photos. Each one tells a different story, and you almost imagine yourself there in front of the camera looking in, Ta ,Jan.  he ! he ! and my favourite is the one were that fella looks like he has had a right skinful and his little mate is holding him up ...haaa !
Jan

I've seen these photo's on various sites,,,still very interesting,,you wonder what their lives must of been like..

I love the drunken pair haha,,wouldn't laugh if he was coming home to me though hahaha Laughing
MOJO

....notice that not many have shoes,but everyone's got a hat! Smile And while the men were bevvying,some of the ladies were out fighting for the vote! Eleanor Rathbone is amongst these,but I don't know which one??




Photo courtesy of L.R.O. ?
Jan

Brilliant that mojo,, love the two in the car,, their dresses are great..Jan x
brainbox

I have that photo in a book and I am pretty sure it says which one is Eleanor Rathbone, I will try and suss out which book it is in and solve your mystery MOJO

Edit : I think its the one in the car that doesn't look like a dragon . Laughing
Jan

haha not another Dragon

Burlinton Street


Seamans Orphanage 1890's

Alice

MOJO wrote:
....notice that not many have shoes,but everyone's got a hat! Smile And while the men were bevvying,some of the ladies were out fighting for the vote! Eleanor Rathbone is amongst these,but I don't know which one??




Photo courtesy of L.R.O. ?


All those ladies look so smart, great photo MOJO
MOJO

Does anyone recognise this bird! Smile

Jan

Oh No haha,, not saying which one is me ...Jan x Very Happy
MOJO

I thought they were all the same person???
Jan

hahaha No mojo,, They are all different people,,,,

Jan x Laughing
MOJO

You and your sisters????????????????? Confused  Surprised I think you are the dark one! Smile
Jan

haha still not saying  Wink




Liverpool City Mission

Sad this one....jan x
MOJO

I've got it....you're the one holding the bucket! Laughing
Barbie

Jan wrote:



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And as it is now.
brainbox

nice pic Barbie.
Do you know which one of those lads went on to become quite famous ?
Barbie

Do tell, however, I'm going tohave a wild guess and say Frankie Vaughn. If you say yes, I can tell you that probably oneof the other lads is my father in law who was his mate. I hope it's him you are going to say.
brainbox

he ! He !  I wasn't referring to Frankie Vaughn Barbie, and I reckon it was maybe a little bit before his time....May be wrong about that of course,,, I am intrigued now.....have you got info on it .?
Barbie

I wasn't sure hop far back that pic was cos there were bare footed kids around Liverpool for a long time.
My father in law, died nearly 4 years ago, was from Gerrard gardens, an Italian family. Shifted to Huyton, but then returned to Gerrard Gardens to one of the new bunglows. Sadly both my mother and father in law have now passed over, I loved them till the day they went. I'll always love them.
Anyway, my father in law was Frankies mate and I have some tales of their misdemeanors  Laughing
MOJO

B.B. I've heard the story about the black kid going on to do something,but I can't remember what!? Was it some sort of musical career?

Barbie,
          just had a look through your pic's on flickr,and some good one's there! (you certainly look like your mum!) Smile As for Gerard gardens,did you live there yourself?,as there is a good book about it, by Ged Fagan,who you might have heard of?
                                                                          Here's a pic' of Frankie,in "Tophat" records,in Dale st.(I think?)
                                                     
Jan

Yes Mojo I have heard that story too about the lad sitting on Steble fountain ,,,got the pic ,, not counting the lad whose half in pic ,,,
3rd left..Jan x





He went on to bigger things ,, anyone know what???

Jan x Very Happy
Jan

Barbie that sounds really interesting..Jan x
brainbox

yep MOJO,

It was the black lad, apparently his Great Grandad had been a captured African Slave, The young lad went on to be a very popular musician in the U.S,A,
Barbie

Mojo, I never lived there. My FIL was born and bred there but moved to Huyton with the MIL and the kids as he needed a bigger house. That's where I met my ex hubby as I lived in Huyton at the time. (Me and him ar still friends) Once all the kids left home bar one, he applied for a bunglow being there as my MIL was off her feet with arthritus. The council agreed and back they went until their passing. One son still lives there now in the bunglow, he bought it a couple of years ago.
I always took time to visit him and he'd sit and tell me tales of the 'old days' and what he got up to as a kid growing up in town. He remembers him and Frankie getting a clip round the ear hole from a copper..... Laughing Sadly, they lost touch. I eventually went back to Jones but my kids still are Riozzi.
MOJO

Apparently,I've got family up that way,but I can't say I know the place,at all! Have you read any of the books on "Little Italy", there might be a mention of your dad!
Jan

A link for some interesting 1980's photo's

http://i-donline.com/2011/08/a-love-letter-to-liverpool/

Jan x
brainbox

great link Jan, I've never seen that one .

here's a pic for barbie...





.Frankie Vaughn at The Coconut Grove in the 70s.
Barbie

Jan, love the link thanks.
BB, mum and dad went the Grove a few times in the 70's. I don't think mum liked it much. She liked their local, The Waverley, top of Salisbury Road, Anfield.
However, thanks for the pic of Frankie. I wonder who all theother people are.
nowhereman

The bloke on the left looks a little like Jimmy Tarbuck.
MOJO

Maybe you remember this guy B.B.? Laughing



"Squeaking Jimmy" doing his thing! Shocked
brainbox

he ! he ! ,MOJO, I think maybe I must have been to busy up the chimneys to have noticed him . Laughing  Laughing

Its a great pic though isn't it. I've seen it 2 or 3 times in the past on sites...the last time was only a week or so ago on facebook. Someone posted remarking that his shoes looked a bit old and a bit of a tight fit, I posted back suggesting that was maybe the reason for his squeaking !

Laughing
Jan

Thats a fantastic photo mojo ,,,look at those steps on the horse drawn tram ,,,I wouldn't want to go up top haha...Jan x Very Happy
brainbox

Thanks for posting MOJO.  Have you any further background info on ''Squeaky' . please
MOJO

All I know is it must be a pretty old pic',as the bus is horse drawn,and the "sqeaky" comes from whatever he's selling from his tray! Some sort of kid's toy,like those things that make your voice sound........squeaky? Laughing
Barbie

Maybe his underroos were a bit tight as well as his shoes!  Shocked
brainbox

Barbie wrote:
Maybe his underroos were a bit tight as well as his shoes!  Shocked


he  ! he !  

underroos   ???

Barbie, I take it that is the Welsh version of Undercrackers

Poor old Jimmy !

Laughing
Barbie

brainbox wrote:
Barbie wrote:
Maybe his underroos were a bit tight as well as his shoes!  Shocked


he  ! he !  

underroos   ???

Barbie, I take it that is the Welsh version of Undercrackers

Poor old Jimmy !

Laughing
It's American. Much to the annoyance of my son, I'm quite 'mericanized!  Razz
Jan



1906-7


1910 waterloo
brainbox

They're interesting Group photos Jan....Is there a common link between them .
MOJO

Nice pic's Jan! Anyone you remember B.B.? Laughing
Jan

Great finds thanks,,,,,No info on these photo's i'm affraid, which is such a shame ..No links BB,,,,,,,,,,,Jan x

I thought I would put this on,,,just thought someone looking in may be related in some way,,,the person is from Liverpool,,, As you can see the grave is in Ceylon now called Sri lanka,,,,


Jan

brainbox

I took these whilst in the Emigrants section of the Maritime museum yesterday...can you see what it says on the Trunks  ...Surely it doesn't mean what it says !











Barbie

Flippin' heck, sent alone!  Confused
brainbox

Very sad times indeed. On the trunks it actually says  -' Not Wanted  On Voyage to Quebec'

I think it must refer to the trunks being not wanted during the Voyage , but I read it as the Kids were not wanted and were on their way to Quebec.

I was very saddened by this section of the Museum.
Barbie

brainbox wrote:
Very sad times indeed. On the trunks it actually says  -' Not Wanted  On Voyage to Quebec'

I think it must refer to the trunks being not wanted during the Voyage , but I read it as the Kids were not wanted and were on their way to Quebec.

I was very saddened by this section of the Museum.

Double entendre....very sad.
Jan

So sad BB ,, thanks for posting them for us ,, interesting information ,,,Jan x

Adelphi Bell boys 1895
MOJO

Nice pic' Jan. I always wonder how life turned out for the people in these old pic's! They probably served in WW1.just like these probably did Sad







Pic's courtesy of Colin Wilkinson.
Barbie

Thanks for sharing them mojo, would be interesting to see how their lives were mapped out.
Jan

They are great photo's mojo but so so sad,,, I hope they had happy lives in the end..Jan x
MOJO

Think these may have been "bootblacks" having a kip, till business picked up!





...but these don't have any boots!


Photo's courtesy of Colin Richardson.
Jan

awwww poor little things ,, so so sad to see this ,, makes you want to take them home ,,and look after them ,,,,,thanks for those photo's mojo,,,,,Jan x Crying or Very sad
MOJO

A couple more...not a shoe between them!







Photo's courtesy of Colin Richardson.
Barbie

Not a shoe between them but there was always money for ale!  Laughing
MOJO

Yeh, "the good ole day's", I don't think! Shocked
Tony Riviera



It looks like this poor soul never used moisturiser. She was on the fruit barrows for years. Heard she died a bit ago
Jan

Just such wonderful photo's ,, I love them all ,, so sad ,, such hard lives ,, we are so lucky today ,,    

Jan x
Barbie

What was her name, I've forgotten.  Embarassed
MOJO

The first name that comes to mind,is Lizzie Christian,who was a well known city character,and who's family are still involved with the trade,but I don't think it's her?





Barbie

MOJO wrote:
The first name that comes to mind,is Lizzie Christian,who's family are still involved with the trade,but I don't think it's her?
That's the name I was trying to remember, but looking at her, you probably correct in saying it not her.
brainbox

I have seen that Craggy face somewhere before, and i dont mean on an imitation Crocodile handbag or Shoes   Razz ...She also reminds me of my Awld Nin too.  lol



Liverpool Corpy Rat Catchers


MOJO

....and the one on the end, gets to take the catches home! Smile
Barbie

MOJO wrote:
....and the one on the end, gets to take the catches home! Smile
For the scouse?  Razz
Jan

awww thats it mojo little Lizzie ,,Thanks ,Jan x
MOJO

...Ahh,rat scouse,the good ole day's! Shocked  Laughing
Barbie

MOJO wrote:
...Ahh,rat scouse,the good ole day's! Shocked  Laughing
Blergh!
MOJO

You must all remember this guy,in Church st!

Barbie

I think I remember him Mojo, if not then there was another guy always bible bashing, did me 'ed in!

I wish I had seen this exhibition when it was on.
THIS

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